I've been using those liner pencils for a couple of years, as I found them on Amazon. I love the way they are soft but stay the whole day, I like the colors and that they are good for the waterlines as well. Lately I was not able to find them through Amazon, so I bought them directly from the company. I have encountered a delivery issue from a carrier, and never received the package, but the company refund my purchase so I could purchase the pencils from another store. Great product.